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Rugby League Saints - 2017 - UPDATE

Discussion in 'St George-Illawarra Dragons' started by S J, Aug 30, 2016.

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  1. stanleyg

    stanleyg Well-Known Member

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    Promote another forward from the lower grades and use the cash to pay Dugan a good FB's wages seeing that is the position Mary has said he will play him if Duges resigns and Mary is coach next season.
    Vaughan has turned out to be one of the best forward buys in a long time and could be just the one to partner a younger player in the ruck area.
    As much as you can admire and hope for club loyalty players only get around 10 yrs at top money so their agents need to top up their retirement pension. Oh and the players pension as well.
     
  2. S J

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    Half Way Report:

    So - the half way mark and 18 points from a possible 26 (8 from 12 - plus bye). 65% - enough to have us in the top 4. We have had Game 1 SOO and suffered injury to our top players. And lost a few doubtful games - so maybe 4 points lost somewhere.

    We clearly get 2 from the next bye - so 20 points with 12 games to go. If we win 50% of these we get 12 points - so 32. Should make the 8.

    However - if we can keep our 65% games - ie 8 wins - 3-4 losses - we finish on 36/38 - probably enough to make the top 4. This is essential to have a good run at the GF. Bottom 4 teams are really up against it.

    I feel as said previously - we can make the 4.
     
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    About time ... :)

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    Uncertainty around timeframes for the NSW government's $1.6 billion overhaul of Sydney's stadiums is likely to persuade St George Illawarra to return more games to their suburban bases at Kogarah and Wollongong from next season.

    The Dragons are in the midst of finalising their home ground strategy from next season with their four-year commitment due to expire this year and they are giving strong consideration to temporarily abandoning a push to play more games at Sydney's bigger stadiums, given the imminent refurbishments.

    A new western Sydney stadium at Parramatta is under construction and not due to be opened until 2019, while plans for the renovation of ANZ Stadium, which hosts two Dragons home games each season, are yet to be revealed.

    It is unclear whether Venues NSW will undertake the ANZ Stadium makeover in stages over a number of years – possibly from the end of next year – or close the venue completely for a season to expedite the changes.

    The Dragons – who count five grounds, including ANZ Stadium, Allianz Stadium and the Sydney Cricket Ground as home venues in any one year – could be the first NRL club to bite the bullet and shift more fixtures back to their suburban strongholds from 2018.

    It's understood such a measure would only be temporary until the Sydney stadia rebuild was complete, but at least appease their passionate supporter base which has lobbied for more matches at UOW Jubilee Oval and WIN Stadium.

    St George Illawarra usually play four games at each venue in a season, but allocated an extra one to Kogarah in 2017 due to a quirk in the NRL draw.

    New Dragons chairman Brian Johnston conceded the club's venue plan may have had "limited success" despite crowds at ANZ Stadium for home matches against the Bulldogs and Tigers in the past four years outstripping average attendances at Kogarah and Wollongong.

    It costs the joint venture $100,000 just to throw open the gates at their traditional homes as opposed to being subsidised to play games at Sydney's major venues.

    Asked would the Dragons persist with their existing venue allocation from next year, Johnston said: "With all the developments that are going to happen with the venues they might not be able to cater for us anyway. The decision might be made for us.

    "[But] we need to keep all our options open for us. What has worked are those marquee games like Anzac Day against the Roosters, but we need to work on how we market and promote the event.

    "Yes, we want to get games in our local district because that resonates with a lot of fans however it doesn't pay the bills. We haven't had any clear decision yet.

    "Is it going to be a good fan experience [at ANZ Stadium under a rebuild]? What's going to be capacity? Are they in a position during a development phase to guarantee a gate?"

    The Tigers are another club which juggles its scheduling around ANZ Stadium as well as Leichhardt and Campbelltown while the Olympic venue's major NRL tenants, the Bulldogs and Rabbitohs, will be sweating on a finalised business plan for the ground's revamp.

    The home ground debate will be one of the first major points of business for Johnston – and the Dragons executive – after he replaced Warren Lockwood as chairman in recent months.

    Having signed off on coach Paul McGregor's two-year extension after a flying start to the year, the long-serving Dragons player and administrator won't be rushed into finalising a deal to sell a 50 per cent stake in the club to WIN.

    Billionaire Bruce Gordon's empire has been bogged down in proposed changes to media ownership laws and platform shifts forcing talks to slow with the Dragons, who have fielded other expressions of interest.

    "I would be very confident we can get something done with WIN, but we don't want to disregard other potential suitors out there," Johnston said.

    "[WIN] are probably the right fit because they have an emotional attachment to the club and that is just as important as the bucks to the longevity of the business model.

    "If we look at world sport most of the successful teams are privately owned or have part private ownership. There are some public consortiums, but not many. Most of them are owned by wealthy people who have an emotional attachment to an organisation. We are probably no different."

    Johnston said he wanted his chairmanship to be defined by a "high performing team and sustainable business model" and even expressed surprise at the Dragons' rapid improvement on the park this season.

    "I think we anticipated improvement, I don't think anyone would have anticipated this degree of improvement to be honest," he said. "Some may say we're overperforming at the moment, but we're not happy with just competing – we want to excel."
     
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    The "home" ground should be Kogarah but seeing apart from the name the club has essentially become the Illawarra Steelers it would appear the Gong is the "home" ground
    I am passionate about the Home ground being the St George traditional home of Kogarah.
    The reality is the club cant continue to Financially support playing at two home grounds so a decision will eventually be reached to use only one ground and with all the facilities now at the gong we know which ground it will be..
    While Anz which actually pays the club to turn out at its white elephant goes under remodelling perhaps the club could follow the lead of the Eels and play a game in Darwin which while a small round gets a full house to provide crowd atmosphere.
    Which ever way things go at the club Brian is going to be struggling to juggle his options.
     
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    ROUND 21
    Saturday (July 29)
    Knights v Dragons, McDonald Jones Stadium (FOX), 3pm

    ROUND 22
    Friday (August 4)
    Dragons v Rabbitohs, Sydney Cricket Ground (FOX), 6:00pm

    ROUND 23
    Saturday (August 12)
    Dragons v Titans, UOW Jubilee Oval (FOX), 3pm

    ROUND 24
    Friday (August 18)
    Broncos v Dragons, Suncorp Stadium (NINE), 7:50pm

    ROUND 25
    Sunday (August 27)
    Panthers v Dragons, Pepper Stadium (NINE), 4pm

    ROUND 26
    Sunday (September 3)
    Dragons v Bulldogs, ANZ Stadium (NINE), 4pm


    Good to see no 5 day turnarounds - a good gap.
     
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    An interesting stat - how many games does Duges actually start and finish in a season ?

    26 rounds- he misses 3 for SOO. Then the injuries and others kick in. Maybe a Test or two. And we were meant to pay him a fortune.
     
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    He is a FB and NOT a centre.
    He gets injured.....a lot BUT he does put his all into each play he makes from FB so it is not unusual a guy who plays so fervently gets injured.
    Would not have had a problem with the Dragons paying him what he was asking to play at FB providing the money was linked to him for each game he played and finished. It might have helped him become more of a "thinking" FB.
    It is however a moot point now as the Sharks will gain the benefit providing they are not one of the clubs that will be caught up in a less than expected salary cap.
     
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    CLOSED !
     
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